ericshu
Sep 30, 10:16 AM
:rolleyes: Wow, both of you missed it entirely. My point is the same as yours.
The poster I replied to suggested that Apple could have split their contract so that both AT&T and Verizon would have the iPhone (meaning better overall service today). But in the end, that would mean less profit for Apple.
I was explaining that Apple would not have made an exclusive agreement had there been no extra money involved. That's my point.
Exactly!!! Could not have said it better! Cannot see the forest for the trees!!!!!!!!
The poster I replied to suggested that Apple could have split their contract so that both AT&T and Verizon would have the iPhone (meaning better overall service today). But in the end, that would mean less profit for Apple.
I was explaining that Apple would not have made an exclusive agreement had there been no extra money involved. That's my point.
Exactly!!! Could not have said it better! Cannot see the forest for the trees!!!!!!!!
wordoflife
Apr 23, 07:37 PM
I like how the proximity sensor was casually cut off from the picture. I wonder if that iPhone has the "new" proximity sensor or the old one.
I bet if T-Mobile got the iPhone, they wouldn't need to sell the company since many people would go back to T-Mobile.
I bet if T-Mobile got the iPhone, they wouldn't need to sell the company since many people would go back to T-Mobile.
Yvan256
Jul 28, 01:26 PM
"Forget about Zune, look at this new operating system we're releasing this year. It's called Vista. It has this new search feature called Floodlight. When you search for something it instantly floods you with results from your hard drive."
"Floodlight"... good one. :D
"Floodlight"... good one. :D
DrDomVonDoom
Apr 26, 01:33 PM
wow, this is awful, ****ing capitalists apple. This is why I'll use soundcloud and NOT apple cloud.
Then we got this guy over here. If you don't like capitalists what the **** are you doing on a macrumors forum? If 20 bucks made you just **** your pants, how did you afford a Mac or a iPad or iPhone. Not to be a dick but, Shouldn't you be buying some horse **** 3rd world version of the iPad from a lepar off the back of a horse buggy or something? SoundCloud has over a million subscribers, for a argueably less intuitive platform. Thats not capitalism?
Then we got this guy over here. If you don't like capitalists what the **** are you doing on a macrumors forum? If 20 bucks made you just **** your pants, how did you afford a Mac or a iPad or iPhone. Not to be a dick but, Shouldn't you be buying some horse **** 3rd world version of the iPad from a lepar off the back of a horse buggy or something? SoundCloud has over a million subscribers, for a argueably less intuitive platform. Thats not capitalism?
LethalWolfe
Apr 30, 01:07 AM
I'm not sure at what price point predatory pricing becomes an issue, but I would think that Amazon may have crossed that line.
Predatory pricing becomes an issue for Amazon after it dominates the market place and sets its prices significantly lower than the competition in an attempt to drive them out of business. So, let Amazon capture 70% or 80% more of the legal music download market and then maybe bring up predatory pricing.
If Amazon is selling music at a loss per song, then the FTC might have a say about that.
Has no one in this thread heard of a 'loss leader' before? Movie tickets at a theater? Loss leader. Gas from a gas station? Loss leader. Anything on sale (especially Black Friday)? Loss leader. iTunes Store? Yup, some loss leading going on there too.
Link (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/11/07/your_99c_belong/)
"We would like to break even/make a little bit of money but it's not a money maker," he said, candidly.
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When the conversation turned to rivals such as eTunes and Napster, Jobs said: "They don't make iPods, so they don't have a related business where they do [make money]".
Link (http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/5/steve-jobs-movie-deal-a-loss-leader-for-apple)
iTunes' big studio deal announced yesterday? It's going to be an expensive one for Steve Jobs who's taking a loss on each film sold. Some terms from the WSJ: Apple (APPL) is paying $16 to the studios for each new release, and will sell the films to consumers for $14.99.
Lethal
Predatory pricing becomes an issue for Amazon after it dominates the market place and sets its prices significantly lower than the competition in an attempt to drive them out of business. So, let Amazon capture 70% or 80% more of the legal music download market and then maybe bring up predatory pricing.
If Amazon is selling music at a loss per song, then the FTC might have a say about that.
Has no one in this thread heard of a 'loss leader' before? Movie tickets at a theater? Loss leader. Gas from a gas station? Loss leader. Anything on sale (especially Black Friday)? Loss leader. iTunes Store? Yup, some loss leading going on there too.
Link (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/11/07/your_99c_belong/)
"We would like to break even/make a little bit of money but it's not a money maker," he said, candidly.
.
.
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When the conversation turned to rivals such as eTunes and Napster, Jobs said: "They don't make iPods, so they don't have a related business where they do [make money]".
Link (http://www.businessinsider.com/2008/5/steve-jobs-movie-deal-a-loss-leader-for-apple)
iTunes' big studio deal announced yesterday? It's going to be an expensive one for Steve Jobs who's taking a loss on each film sold. Some terms from the WSJ: Apple (APPL) is paying $16 to the studios for each new release, and will sell the films to consumers for $14.99.
Lethal
robeddie
Apr 21, 07:14 PM
So your link is to an article where the writer has no clue why it wasn't done? Not very useful. Again, I don't get why people don't get this. A backlight keyboard takes more room. Not a lot but some. The new MBAs are thinner with larger batteries than the first. Seems pretty reasonable it wouldn't fit. Note this is Apple, which do you think they would chose, thinner or a backlight keyboard?
Cool. Then in a couple months, when the new macbook air is released and its as thin, or thinner than the current model AND includes a backlit keyboard, you'll come back here and admit you were ignorant, right?
Cool. Then in a couple months, when the new macbook air is released and its as thin, or thinner than the current model AND includes a backlit keyboard, you'll come back here and admit you were ignorant, right?
stevegmu
Jan 30, 12:28 AM
LOL... my friend, lets look at this logically. The United States debt surpasses every combined nations of Earth. Our currency is no longer backed by gold, 100% of our income tax pays the interest on our national debt. We transfered our producing companies to other countries. Most people have taken out equity loans on their homes and have maxed out their credit. The middle class will be no more and there is no getting out of our predicament. We are simply not producing enough money to ever get out of debt and with inflation out of control and devaluation of our currency a collapse will happen. In 1929 the good to debt ratio before the collapse was 1:16 as of 2006 it was sitting at 1:60. I have nothing to prove other than I'd cash out now and invest when this happens.
The National debt is meaningless. It is actually going down yearly in relation to GDP.
Do you even have any idea when the last time the US was on the Gold Standard? Can you name any other country whose currency is backed by gold?
If 100% of our income tax pays off the interest on the Debt, how then does the government operate?
Now you are just getting silly. Most people have taken out equity loans and maxed out their credit? Please.
America is still a manufacturing giant. Our exports to China were up 21% last quarter. We are still known for high quality, precision manufacturing few countries can match- with the exception of Germany.
There are more middle class Americans today than in any other point in history.
Why do you think a weak dollar is bad? Sure, there may be some inflation, however, a weak dollar is good for exports and tourism. Take a look at Boeing vs. Airbus, as it relates to the devaluation of the dollar. There's a reason China artificially keeps their currency devalued.
Somehow, I doubt you have a dime invested in the market...
The National debt is meaningless. It is actually going down yearly in relation to GDP.
Do you even have any idea when the last time the US was on the Gold Standard? Can you name any other country whose currency is backed by gold?
If 100% of our income tax pays off the interest on the Debt, how then does the government operate?
Now you are just getting silly. Most people have taken out equity loans and maxed out their credit? Please.
America is still a manufacturing giant. Our exports to China were up 21% last quarter. We are still known for high quality, precision manufacturing few countries can match- with the exception of Germany.
There are more middle class Americans today than in any other point in history.
Why do you think a weak dollar is bad? Sure, there may be some inflation, however, a weak dollar is good for exports and tourism. Take a look at Boeing vs. Airbus, as it relates to the devaluation of the dollar. There's a reason China artificially keeps their currency devalued.
Somehow, I doubt you have a dime invested in the market...
iMeowbot
Dec 1, 03:00 PM
But if we agree that the development of a secure OS is all about utilizing sound design, coding and auditing processes, then we must also accept that the challenge will be very difficult for Apple to meet: You just cannot do that with Open Source...
Sure you can. What you can't do is grab stuff and assume that it does the right thing without checking it for yourself. That's equally true for software developed in house, or developed by subcontractors or commercial partners. It has little at all to do with public vs. private source code.
Sure you can. What you can't do is grab stuff and assume that it does the right thing without checking it for yourself. That's equally true for software developed in house, or developed by subcontractors or commercial partners. It has little at all to do with public vs. private source code.
OceanView
Mar 17, 10:48 AM
Heard Brea had only 9 iPads today. Anyone confirm? Over 100+ waiting in line. Crazy.
Brea had 15 wifi only.
125+ people.
Brea had 15 wifi only.
125+ people.
Salacion
Apr 22, 06:04 PM
If it has the teardrop shape I will not buy it. I hate the look of the iPod Touch.
appleguy123
Apr 27, 08:54 PM
Ok appleguy :p
Glad you agree.
Glad you agree.
JsR
Sep 13, 02:01 PM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Business/Pix/pictures/2008/05/30/coke460.jpg
ChrisA
Dec 4, 11:52 AM
How so? That means the AppleTalk network stack is loaded.. needlessly, and potentially wasting resources, no?
Regardless, I find it rather odd that the service should be enabled by default given it's depricated status. I mean.. MacTels cannot run Classic, yet a major banner of the Classic OS (pre-8.6) is enabled by default? No one else sees that as odd? <shrug>
I worked in a place that still had old Apple equipment. I set up a server on a Sun/SPARC Solaris system that served Appletalk so those old Macs could get to home directories on the UNIX systems. I haven't worked there in 8 years but I can imagine someone buying a new Intel Mac and expecting to connect to the server using Appletalk. Of course the new macs could get the files using NFS just like the other UNIX machines.
When I was there they still have Appletalk printers on the network. Those old laser printers never die.
Regardless, I find it rather odd that the service should be enabled by default given it's depricated status. I mean.. MacTels cannot run Classic, yet a major banner of the Classic OS (pre-8.6) is enabled by default? No one else sees that as odd? <shrug>
I worked in a place that still had old Apple equipment. I set up a server on a Sun/SPARC Solaris system that served Appletalk so those old Macs could get to home directories on the UNIX systems. I haven't worked there in 8 years but I can imagine someone buying a new Intel Mac and expecting to connect to the server using Appletalk. Of course the new macs could get the files using NFS just like the other UNIX machines.
When I was there they still have Appletalk printers on the network. Those old laser printers never die.
tjsdaname
Dec 4, 10:58 AM
Why not .223?
My choice for a 22LR would be the GSG-5. And for the AR platform... the DPMS LR-308 :cool: hell of a gun.
well, im only 17 and .223 is just to expensive for me to shoot...
and I dont know why I like the sig so much, I was at gander mountain the other day, and was feeling out all of the other .22's and it just feels the best to me...
it's going to be ether the sig, or the smith and wesson M&P 15-22. that is a nice gun also...
My choice for a 22LR would be the GSG-5. And for the AR platform... the DPMS LR-308 :cool: hell of a gun.
well, im only 17 and .223 is just to expensive for me to shoot...
and I dont know why I like the sig so much, I was at gander mountain the other day, and was feeling out all of the other .22's and it just feels the best to me...
it's going to be ether the sig, or the smith and wesson M&P 15-22. that is a nice gun also...
haddman
Sep 30, 10:43 AM
Yeah, I would estimate my dropped call rate is around 20-30% (Northern Virginia) sometimes higher depending on the day. They said they built a new tower near me, but ever since I got that message, my coverage has dropped at least one to two bars everywhere I go.
Same here in Northern VA...this in addition to the 3.1 bugs is just maddening...enough to drive me to another carrier. Waiting on some Android phones to be released with VZW...Sprint has the the new HTC hero as well. Might be about the closest thing to an iPhone that won't drop my damn calls.
Same here in Northern VA...this in addition to the 3.1 bugs is just maddening...enough to drive me to another carrier. Waiting on some Android phones to be released with VZW...Sprint has the the new HTC hero as well. Might be about the closest thing to an iPhone that won't drop my damn calls.
mozmac
Oct 23, 09:15 AM
I've got a question for you guys. Any of you Mac users that also run Windows on a box somewhere:
Are any of you really going to upgrade to Vista when it comes out? or are you going to wait at least a year?
Are any of you really going to upgrade to Vista when it comes out? or are you going to wait at least a year?
KnightWRX
Apr 22, 08:03 AM
It's not 5 patents, it's actually 10 patents. Reuters has some details :
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/22/us-samsung-apple-idUSTRE73L0DG20110422?WT.tsrc=Social%20Media&WT.z_smid=twtr-reuters_%20com&WT.z_smid_dest=Twitter
Samsung said the suits, filed in South Korea, Japan and Germany, involved 10 alleged infringements of patents mainly involving power reduction during data transmission, 3G technology for reducing errors during data transmission, and wireless data communication technology.
Again, Apple sues over looks, gets counter-sued over base functionality they can't do without. :rolleyes:
In the end, consumers, be them Apple customers or Samsung customers will lose and the lawyers will win. It's surprising anyone here sees any positive in this.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/22/us-samsung-apple-idUSTRE73L0DG20110422?WT.tsrc=Social%20Media&WT.z_smid=twtr-reuters_%20com&WT.z_smid_dest=Twitter
Samsung said the suits, filed in South Korea, Japan and Germany, involved 10 alleged infringements of patents mainly involving power reduction during data transmission, 3G technology for reducing errors during data transmission, and wireless data communication technology.
Again, Apple sues over looks, gets counter-sued over base functionality they can't do without. :rolleyes:
In the end, consumers, be them Apple customers or Samsung customers will lose and the lawyers will win. It's surprising anyone here sees any positive in this.
DurnkPorduction
Apr 22, 10:03 AM
Unfortunately, as expected.
It's almost always design over functionality at Apple.
But we got used to it. :)
It's almost always design over functionality at Apple.
But we got used to it. :)
yadmonkey
Mar 31, 01:48 PM
This was posted prematurely by a day, right?
Rowbear
Apr 5, 03:20 PM
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/6686/wtr3.jpg
Stunning. Did you use a graduated ND filter on the sky ?
Stunning. Did you use a graduated ND filter on the sky ?
mdriftmeyer
Apr 15, 04:36 PM
At one point, Apple got it certified as UNIX, so OS X is a UNIX platform, not just UNIX-like. Linux is probably fairly close to being able to be UNIX certified as well, but there is a money outlay that nobody wants to spend. To top it off, UNIX certification means zilch to the Linux community, so why would anyone pay to have it certified? I'm not even sure how Apple benefitted from their certification.
LINUX isn't POSIX Compliant and there are several other areas that would require changes to the LINUX Kernel to be UNIX Compliant without paying for the Test Certification.
UNIX is not a Kernel or a Filesystem. UNIX is a single specification. Your quotes to the OP were correct. What we call UNIX today we don't call Unix of old.
We aren't in 1969 at AT&T Bell Labs with Kernigan and Ritchie writing in Assembly, C for a custom Kernel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification
LINUX isn't POSIX Compliant and there are several other areas that would require changes to the LINUX Kernel to be UNIX Compliant without paying for the Test Certification.
UNIX is not a Kernel or a Filesystem. UNIX is a single specification. Your quotes to the OP were correct. What we call UNIX today we don't call Unix of old.
We aren't in 1969 at AT&T Bell Labs with Kernigan and Ritchie writing in Assembly, C for a custom Kernel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification
JesterJJZ
Jul 24, 11:13 PM
Ehhh... A headphone jack would be nice. I don't want to have to buy new headphones just for my iPod...:mad:
technicalFoozle
Apr 14, 07:09 AM
That's my guess.
Purchase apps and have them available for install without synchronization on ipad, ipod, iphone without plugging the device in.
Honestly, I don't think my version of it is correct but MobileMe is as good a guess as any other.
Purchase apps and have them available for install without synchronization on ipad, ipod, iphone without plugging the device in.
Honestly, I don't think my version of it is correct but MobileMe is as good a guess as any other.
Timothy
Oct 18, 10:40 PM
AlexF...you seem to just be digging yourself into a deeper hole. You should just drop it, because your point is pointless. The iPod is the single greatest thing to happen to the "mac" in the history of Apple. And I've been here for the entirety of that history.
Anyone who thinks that the iPod is detracting from the value of macs is clueless.
Anyone who thinks that the iPod is detracting from the value of macs is clueless.
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